Regarding Woodstock Convention
This is just a collection of the
communication between senior workers and the Bainbridge family that
own the convention grounds.
(also noticed that on the
recent workers list, Alanna MacDonald .. a sister worker with
similar critisizms .. has been moved to the sidelines!!)
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Let my people go. Exodus 9:1
Egypt filled an honorable function in its time.. but as leadership became impossible to tolerate, "Moving on" was God’s will and plan so that as God worded it, "my people can serve me"
It required multiple tragic developments and clear evidence that God had withdrawn his support and blessing from leadership, to shake people loose from Egyptian dominance and to strike a new course into an unknown and uncharted personal future
There is honor and decency in leaving Egypt behind!
Faith in personal divine support and personal guidance was an imperative condition to reach the promises in the "other side" Egypts borders.
(An interesting detail in the Exodus story. They were reminded that there was gold in Egypt… take it with you!)
For folks in distress over the obvious moral failure in the ministry --What are the options?
1: Wait for God to take care of it.
2: Wait for others to influence the development.
3: Personally demand change and improvement in the ministry – and wait for it to happen.
4: Distance oneself (and family) – refusing to participate in tainted organizational sponsored activity and to retake responsibility for ones own moral development, spirituality and for activating Christian teaching in daily life.
I and my family tried the first three options for years .. then on the 4th option it was easier for us, as we were refused to participate in the tainted organizational sponsored activity and had to retake responsibility for our own moral development, spirituality and for activating Christian teaching in daily life. For us it has worked very very well!!! We are thankful for the process
I have wondered how things have gone for the worker Alanna MacDonald in NB who wrote a very descriptive open letter about her concerns for the ministry back in April.Today I received this information in an email "
Alanna was given an ultimatum to stop being an advocate for the abused or leave. She was very harshly treated by the overseers in a meeting this week and kicked out.
She spoke very helpfully at a pre convention meeting last Sunday at Ellershouse. Hopefully she will get support from the true friends and staff.
Here is a link to the workers list for 2023 denying her a companion.
I wonder if anyone remembers the countless convention
sermons promising fire and brimstone for a skirt more
than an inch over the knees .. or for the evils of a
brooch on a dress or a blouse -- or cutting a few inches off
the hair --- or the evils of a women wearing a
"mans clothing" -- or a radio in a car -- or a TV
in the front room -- or going to a hockey game on
Wednesday night .. or a beer can or wine bottle in the fridge ..
It was regarded important to keep the "standard high" !!etc
etc. Not any more..
Yes times have changed --- Heard that at convention this year in western Canada ... even the fact of 15 senior workers facing sexual abuse allegations (and concealing child sexual abusers) along with hundreds of lower ranking folks "removed" yet it didn't even make the 'mention it list' at convention. this year The recent documentation of hundreds of cases of sexual abuse victims being forced to silence and shame to "save the reputation of the fellowship" and left with life long mental damage -- no one brought that subject up at all! at least at the conventions I heard about... and literally hundreds of other abuse cases finally being internationally brought to light .. "Lets talk about something else!!"
And this isn't even deemed important enought to mention at the gathering of friends!! What has happened?
I remember when moral issues where important in the fellowship (with my parents at least) ... not any more ... especialy in western Canada ... Professing folks in western Canada don't seem to "give a damn".
Unawareness does not diminish moral responsibility when personal ignorance has been an active choice!
a well used method for 'inside membership' to live with
the revelations of recent months regarding vice, cruelty
and horror within the organizations, is to cut themselves
off from the information flow that would distress
The recent letter (written yesterday) is a moving letter of the enormous frustration of parents at being cruelly failed, and morally abandoned by a system that they had honorably trusted since childhood. Comparison is meaningless .. but I and my entire family have first hand understanding of their pain.
However, with that being said, we have full confidence that the steadfastness to honorable principle and moral dignity demonstrated here by Bob and Stacy, will find its way to personal fullfillment, blessing and the amazing beauty of true principle that is really what life is all about. ... (as we gratefully feel that things have worked out for myself, my wife and our wonderful family).
Edgar and family
I am only very, very slightly acquainted with the folks on the Woodstock convention grounds – Bob and Stacy Bainbridge – Just one short email exchange. Proud of this acquaintance!
However, the chain of events that they have shared on other digital sources has moved me and touched a very painful but fulfilling spot in my memories. Also, this story has filled me with an enormous admiration for the price these parents are willing to pay to stand firm for the principles of honour, truth and decency that they believe in —These same principles that they have obviously believed in and supported for a long time. Sadly, it is likely (just guessing) that they will not find full support in many of the folks they have trusted, loved and served through the years.
The ugly attempts to challenge and reject the personal responsibility that all honourable human beings have to stand up for what is true and decent must be regarded as a mark of the very lowest of the moral low … Especially if they are being rejected and punished by a ministry that claims a complete monopoly on moral understanding and truth – (yet has proven itself so guilty (recently) of the most hideous crimes known to man).
Our personal story is not comparable in many ways, but 21 years ago we decided to stand firm on 5 carefully documented (non-contestable) issues that were in complete conflict with the moral principle and dignity we were brought up to believe in. A process of discussion was initiated and resulted in crooked "work-arounds" diminishing the significance of every issue and then landing on our "critical spirit" as the source of blame, and how this bad and bitter spirit could negatively affect "the kingdom". Rejection of us as a family was the only option that was available.
For the Bainbridge family, it would be hard to find a more noble pursuit than the dignity and moral and mental welfare of their daughter. And yet why should it be so hard for anyone or any organization to understand their grief and be willing to comply? Sexual abuse is hardly a non-criticisable issue in any way shape or form. And where else in the world outside 2x2ism would folks be criticized and dishonoured for striving to support and stand beside a closest family member in their distress?
To me it is unfathomable how folks claiming an interest in truth can stand by and let this happen!!
Edgar and Mireille Massey
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